maisha: I'm not quite sure how to take your post.
IME, reverse cowboy interlock is the favoured position because it allows the woman a greater degree of control.
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Latest May 2012 Watchtower: "JW wives must be more lovable"
by cedars inyes, the latest watchtower is upon us.
it opens with a typically outlandish article on marriage.
here are a few of the headlines:.
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More anti-apostate rhetoric from the Watchtower - are they running scared?
by cedars inyes, the may 15th watchtower is now available for download from jw.org.. the final study article, on page 26, directs another salvo at apostates - and warns witnesses not to try arguing with them on the internet:.
indeed, we ought to move as far away from wrongdoing as possible and not see how close we can get to it without being overcome by sin.
for instance, we need to guard against succumbing to apostasy, a sin that would make us unfit to glorify god.
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sbf: I think this goes along with the point I was trying to make above.
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More anti-apostate rhetoric from the Watchtower - are they running scared?
by cedars inyes, the may 15th watchtower is now available for download from jw.org.. the final study article, on page 26, directs another salvo at apostates - and warns witnesses not to try arguing with them on the internet:.
indeed, we ought to move as far away from wrongdoing as possible and not see how close we can get to it without being overcome by sin.
for instance, we need to guard against succumbing to apostasy, a sin that would make us unfit to glorify god.
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Joe Grundy
In the words of Shakespeare: 'Methinks he does protest too much'.
Just a thought - the whole drive of the dubs' 'field work' is to 'convert' people away from their existing religion towards dubdom. In other words, to make them 'apostates' from their current religion (using 'apostates' in its normal definition).
So apostates are a 'good thing' as long as they are apostasising from a religion other than the dubs.
OK, I understand it now.
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Latest May 2012 Watchtower: "JW wives must be more lovable"
by cedars inyes, the latest watchtower is upon us.
it opens with a typically outlandish article on marriage.
here are a few of the headlines:.
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This is just a thought - I can't back it up with evidence and it's based on my assumptions and experience.
WTBTS seems to be putting a lot of effort into their work in developing countries where (this is a generalisation) there tend to be less-developed critical thinking skills and less of a tendency to question those who appear to be in a position of authority. In some of those countries (e.g. those in SE Asia) the sort of thinking shown in the articles about 'serving the husband' and so on would be much more acceptable than in the more liberated 'western' countries.
When I was living in Cyprus I observed that those dubs who employed Filipina 'housemaids' tended to take them to meetings and there were quite a number of Bible Studies going on with SEA ladies. My dub friends were very keen to bring Tagalog magazines to my (now estranged) wife. She - although an educated woman - was not discerning enough to recognise any difference between the dubs and the religion in which she had been brought up (Methodist) and any 'Christian' religion was all the same to her, as it was to many of her friends.
Had I been religious she would have followed me into a religion without a second thought. (The mags went into the bin).
As for the other part of it, her ostensible mission in life was to make and keep her husband happy and I believe from my experience with other SEA ladies that this is a cultural thing. And in my experience any prohibitions/limitations as to sex life would not be easily accepted.
Just my thoughts.
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Whitney Houston, We Will Miss You Forever! Dam Drugs, I Hate Them!
by Bubblegum Apotheosis ini am working on a paper about the suicide and economic index of happiness, reuters shoots her death, pass my desk, "sh*t , i think" life can be so brutal.
with this in mind, i would like to ask you if you are happy, with your current life, if not are you working towards it?
there is a decent size group of ex-jws and jws who have "checked out of this existence" mentally, and allow shi**y people to screw their brains up.
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Joe- How does your country's health plan work for people needing drug rehab..
I don't know much about that I'm afraid. The NHS does have drug/alcohol abuse counselling and advisory services including home visits, there are NHS rehab units. GPs deal with this as part of their general healthcare, and of course some people are dealt with under the NHS mental health provisions (whether as in- or out-patients).
And there are, of course, many private clinics and facilities, some of which would be covered by private medical insurance plans.
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Whitney Houston, We Will Miss You Forever! Dam Drugs, I Hate Them!
by Bubblegum Apotheosis ini am working on a paper about the suicide and economic index of happiness, reuters shoots her death, pass my desk, "sh*t , i think" life can be so brutal.
with this in mind, i would like to ask you if you are happy, with your current life, if not are you working towards it?
there is a decent size group of ex-jws and jws who have "checked out of this existence" mentally, and allow shi**y people to screw their brains up.
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Joe Grundy
'Here in Canada, some people die because they can not afford the pharmaceuticals they need. I don't know how this works in the UK, but in Canada, unless you are on welfare or have Health Care Insurance,,, no MONEY = no prescription. PERIOD.'
It's different in the different constituent countries of the UK.
Here in Wales, under the NHS all prescription medicines are free for everyone. ('Free' in the sense they're paid for by general taxation.)
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What similar features do the "Titanic", and the "Watchtower Bible and Tract Society" have?
by koolaid-man inhttp://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20120131141401aaf9wu1.
undecided questionshow me anotherwhat similar features do the "titanic", and the "watchtower bible and tract society" have?the h.m.s.
titanic, was not paying attention to the ice lanes, and..... .
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Joe Grundy
'Titanic' was not an 'HMS' it was an 'RMS'.
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Draconian Rules for Attending "Special Convention"
by BluesBrother inbritish dubs are invited to attend a special convention next summer in dublin , irish republic.
o k, this kind of trip has been done many times before.
however i have never seen such a crude and rigid set of rules that would apply to their own people going on a trip, at their own expense of course.
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Joe Grundy
I pointed out on page 1 of this thread that I thought that the instructions about this Special Assembly may be in breach of anti-discrimination laws both in UK and Ireland. I have researched this a little further and now I am more convinced that this 'advertisement' is unlawful.
Although I am not, never have been, a JW, I am a citizen of the UK and I am prepared to make an official complaint about this. Under the applicable laws it is not necessary to be personally affected by the discrimination to bring a complaint. I have some experience in the realm of law enforcement and preparation of cpourt/legal documents.
I am happy to use my own name/address in the complaint, and I would suggest it be cross-referred to the UK Charity Commissioners.
What I would need to do this would be:
a scan of the full letter about this event
details of the publisher (e.g. is it WTB&TS of UK, or CCOJW somewhere?) - this should, by law, be printed somewhere on the document.
Never having been a JW, I have nothing to lose - and I enjoy a challenge.
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Draconian Rules for Attending "Special Convention"
by BluesBrother inbritish dubs are invited to attend a special convention next summer in dublin , irish republic.
o k, this kind of trip has been done many times before.
however i have never seen such a crude and rigid set of rules that would apply to their own people going on a trip, at their own expense of course.
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Joe Grundy
Paragraph 3 appears to me to potentially be in breach of disability discrimination laws in both UK and Ireland.
EHRC may be interested.
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An educated persons perception of the watchtower magazine
by Aussie Oz inthe other day (australia day bbq actually) i somehhow got to discussing jws with some of my wifes extended family.
one of them, quite well educated and academic mentioned she was given a wt (no awake to go with it) when they called.. she commented that as she read some of it, it struck her how it was going on about pedaphiles and homosexuals a lot and secondly how every thing they said was not backed up by any legitimate research nor data, just random % this or that to support the flimsy arguments.. her comment was that this was the most un-academic, poorly written journal she had ever read and without going any further, threw it in the trash!.
the sheeple migh lap up the recycled vomit in that rag, but the public aint fooled.. the family laughed heartily when i informed them of the jw belief that the wt and awake!
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Joe Grundy
Yes, as a never-was JW, I can confirm that my view of WTBTS literature is/was that it was poorly-produced propaganda which did not deserve the time spent to read it.